atownsend40
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If a child falls asleep during punishment is it still considered punishment
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The effectiveness of the punishment is directly related to the purpose.  Time outs are different for different people, but here is how one time out may be structured to be the most beneficial for the child...

Steps taken in Time Out:

Step 1-Calm down
Step 2-Stop any hurtful words and actions
Step 3-Identify how they feel or felt
Step 4-Reflect on how they could act differently the next time the situation arises

So perhaps the punishment would be effective in the sense that it did calm the child down and they regained control of themselves, but it may not have been effective if they did not identify how they felt and then reflect on how to change their behavior in the future.  

Punishment just for the sake of punative action is not an effective way to shape behavior.  Always remember the purposes of what is done and how learning and growth can come from the consequences a child faces when they misbehave.  Don't just punish because they are bad, punish to help them learn from their mistakes, gain skills to helpt hem have healthy relationships, and give them opportunities to do things right instead of just saying you did that wrong.  

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pigtoria
pigtoria writes:
Hi Atownsend40....

This is an interesting and actually one that I've been thinking about after an incident that happened to my nephew.  My 4-year-old nephew was sent to the time out corner for misbehaving.  Within minutes of sitting in the time-out chair, he fell asleep.  When we went to see how he was doing about 10 minutes later, he was sound asleep.  Yes, the question is - did he "do" his time-out or "sleep" through it and if he slept through it, does it count or should he get another time out?

Perhaps a better question to ask is "what is the main point of punishment and time out?"  I feel that punishment is a way of emphasizing to the child to not misbehaving in that way again and by "punishing" the child, we hope that the child will have a better memory of what s/he did wrong.  If the child is stress out enough to fall asleep during punishment, the "stress out" will be enough for the child to remember not to misbehave in that way again.

Hope this helps!

Vicki
> 60 days ago

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JeanneBrockmyer
JeanneBrock... writes:
This is a pretty difficult question to answer without knowing the child's age, misbehavior, and length of punishment (which I am assuming is some kind of time out).  Time out for younger children should last no longer than a minute for every year of age (for example, 3 minutes for a 3 year old).  In this short period of time I wouldn't expect a child to fall asleep, but it might be a good thing if they do as that would give them time to calm down.  Since the child is not being allowed to play, even though they are asleep I would consider it time served.
For older children time out is usually called grounding and lasts for varying periods of time depending on the transgression and the child's age.  One mistake many parents make is over-grounding.  The main effect of grounding wears off within a few days and long grounding leads to resentment and is usually difficult for parents to carry out; both responses decrease the chance that the child will learn better behavior from the over-grounding.  If an older child is grounded for more than an hour at a time and falls asleep during that period I would still consider it punishment since the child is not being allowed to do what they would otherwise be doing.  Again, it gives the child a chance to calm down and be more responsive to discussing the problem.
If you have a specific situation that doesn't fit the above, Just Ask!

Jeanne H. Brockmyer, Ph. D., education.com expert clinical child psychologist
> 60 days ago

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